Sunday, June 25, 2006

Warren Kinsella is deluding himself

Recent stories about the Liberals death kneels are true, Canada started to switch paradigms in the last election, and are only continueing to do so. Countering Kinsella's (June 21st) points is so easy to the point hilarity!

"The Liberal Party's obituary has been written so many times, I've wallpapered the rumpus room with the results. Twice. When you are in Opposition, there's always Nervous Nellies who will say you're doomed. As I recall, the aforementioned S. Harper was being measured for a political pine box as recently as November 2005. By the same Nervous Nellies. Yawn. "

The Liberals just keep falling deeper into disarray, not able to mount even an effective opposition. they feels so entitled to government, by the way they speak they haven't been kicked out by the people of Canada! Stephen Harper's political obituary was never written in 2005, and won't be written for years to come, unlike all the Liberal leadership contendors!


"Like it or no, the Liberal Party of Canada is the most successful political machine in Western democracy. Why do you think Mr. Harper has imposed no-second-chances communications discipline on his team in Ottawa? Because he studied the successful Liberal eras (ie. not the Martin blip), and he knows that the Lib's discipline helps them to win elections. Imitation is flattery, etc."


If the Liberal Party is so successful, then why did it loose seats to the Bloc, NDP, and us in the last election! The Liberals have no discipline to emulate, except trying to get money for themselves and their friends, while standing for nothing.

"Ask any smart conservative, on either side of the border: there is always more "gettable" Liberal/Democratic vote. That's a lesson that Tories/Republicans have learned the hard way, too many times. For instance: in the 2006 Canadian federal race - which saw Harper run a picture-perfect campaign, and Martin offer up a shambling, chaotic mess - the Conservatives could still eke out only a narrow minority. That tells me (and Stephen H., who I still like, by the way) that Canadians tend to lean more liberal than conservative. It's in their DNA. And it's why conservatives have to work harder, and get out their vote."

The last election was indicative of a paradigm shift, not a aberation! The liberals can believe these arguments all they want, it just digs them into deeper holes.

"Conservatives' ideology is their ideology: tax cuts, law and order, and so on. That kind of stuff. The Liberal ideology is, to be blunt, winning. Grits like to win, and they've had a lot of practice at winning. They're good at it. Right now, they're miserable, sure, because they LOST. But there's no better motivator for a Liberal than a loss. It gets them to where they most like to be: with their foot on a Conservative or New Democrat windpipe, watching them gasp for air until Election Day. That's when Liberals are happiest. It makes them smile."


Conservative ideology isn't tax cuts, its the government only taking enough money for it to do what it is supposed to do. The loss demoralized the Liberals, and they are down for the count.

"The Martin period was an aberration - but, ultimately, seasonal and arguably necessary. Like cicadas, Liberals turn every twenty years or so to political disasters (eg. Turner, Martin), get reminded why out-of-touch, out-of-work business executives make lousy leaders, and then get back to finding real Liberals. It'll happen in another twenty years, just you watch. In the interim, they'll be okay. "


Have the Liberals shown themselves to be in touch with the people since they lost? No. So why the expectation anything will change? Their party is broken beyond repair.

"And that, at the end, is why Stephen Harper is probably most optimistic: the Martinite elements in the Liberal Party, whose names are interchangeable with "losing," are still around. They haven't learned their lesson, yet.

Until they do, Stephen Harper is pretty safe. It's not a permanent condition, but it'll sure feel like that for a lot of Liberals for the next while."

For the next while? Ha! Forever!

13 Comments:

Anonymous Jon said...

The Martinizers were incompetent bumblers, for sure, but Kinsella is definitely deluding himself when he implies the the criminal Cretinites were in any way 'better'. At the very most, they were competent thieves and accomplished liars, they were never competent government.

Sunday, June 25, 2006 3:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Frank said...

Canadians voted for change, and no amount of chattering from the Lieberals will change that!

Sunday, June 25, 2006 3:59:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew Smith said...

I got to disagree with you on this one. Kinsella is right that we can't underestimate the Liberal Party. Their success in the 20th century is partially because when they get thrown out they have a way to subtilly re-invent themselves and are back with a vengance after an election or two. The Liberals were in power from 1935-1957, were handed a crushing defeat in 1958, and were back by 1963. Ditto in the 1980s. There is no reason to believe they can't do it again.

As much as I would like to see the Liberals collapse, it just won't happen. I think it's too early to say there was a massive shift in Canadian politics with the 2006 election. Harper only won 124 seats - for there to be a real shift, I think he would have to do something like get 3 consecutive majority governments or rule for over a decade. Come to think of it, there hasn't been a conservative that has ruled for over a decade since Macdonald.

Basically what I'm trying to say is don't count you chickens before they hatch.

Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Libs discipline? Carolyn Parrish, Hedy Fry, that doofus with the Olivia Chow blog, and Chretien's golf balls must be the "Pinnacle" (if you'll pardon the pun) of this so-called discipline.

Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:27:00 PM  
Blogger JeffG said...

I have to agree with Andrew on this one. Don't ever, I mean ever, underestimate the Liberals.

Look at recent history, even. In 1984, the PCs won the most seats ever, and within 8 years, the Libs were back in power. That election could more easily be classed as a sea-change in Canadian politics than the 2005/06 election was.

The Lieberals underestimated Harper, let's not make the same mistake...

Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:17:00 PM  
Blogger Christian Conservative said...

I'm with Warren, Andrew Smith and Greg on this one. I've been reading "Grits" by Christine McCall-Newman, and reading the chapters on John Turner, you'd think you were reading a chapter on Paul Martin. (all you have to do is change the name, and the parallels are uncanny) Bottom line, don't count the Liberals out yet.

However, that being said, there is one MAJOR difference which could lead to their demise this time around. They're almost broke, and they have no major streams of revenue for the next election. Either their going to have to run a scaled back campaign, or get some major loans... which may prove difficult, because anyone who may loan them money will know that their chances of getting the money back are growing slimmer.

We'll see.

Monday, June 26, 2006 7:30:00 AM  
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